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Now, this is a rather novel idea. With this deck, I decided that I would combine a Frog - Monarch Deck with a Summoner of Illusions deck. It's shaping up rather I think, but I could use some advice on a couple of things...

I'm good on monsters, I think and I think my spell cards looks pretty good, but I'm not so sure about my selection of traps. So does anyone have any ideas or advice on what to do in regards to traps?

Also, I need some help filling out my extra deck. I think I have all my fusion monsters covered, but what would be good xyz or synchro monsters for the deck?

Oh, and as I write this, I completely forgot about Naturia Exterio. I'll add him when I post an updated build.

As always, suggestions are always welcome.

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traps: when using treeborn frog, i always think of traps as "something i can activate whenever i want".
solemn warning and torrential tribute respond to summons. what if they don't summon? (they will almost always but its a possibility tha they not).

extra deck: seeing as you have some tuners, i'd say to fill the free spots with synchros.

8 fusions but only 3 summoners, not everyone will have a chance :( i'm thinking about something to recycle your summoners, be it add them from graveyard to hand or from graveyard to deck.
"The Shallow Grave" can special summon them face-down.
"Pot of Avarice" is also useful to get another chance at using summoner of illusions, with the added bonus of also recycling your fusions for future summons

   
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traps: when using treeborn frog, i always think of traps as "something i can activate whenever i want".
solemn warning and torrential tribute respond to summons. what if they don't summon? (they will almost always but its a possibility tha they not).

extra deck: seeing as you have some tuners, i'd say to fill the free spots with synchros.

8 fusions but only 3 summoners, not everyone will have a chance :( i'm thinking about something to recycle your summoners, be it add them from graveyard to hand or from graveyard to deck.
"The Shallow Grave" can special summon them face-down.
"Pot of Avarice" is also useful to get another chance at using summoner of illusions, with the added bonus of also recycling your fusions for future summons


Huh, I forgot about The Shallow Grave and I -might- make room for Pot of Avarice.

As for the abundance of Fusions, it never hurts to have some variety, though I guess I could ditch some of the "normal beatsticks" like Ultimate Blue-Eyes White Dragon.

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WHERE ARE YOUR FORBIDDEN ROBES
(for instant naturia exterio THAT STAYS ON THE FIELD)

not to mention all the other fusions monsters that you can abuse with illusions + infiinty + robe
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WHERE ARE YOUR FORBIDDEN ROBES
(for instant naturia exterio THAT STAYS ON THE FIELD)

not to mention all the other fusions monsters that you can abuse with illusions + infiinty + robe


I just never heard of it until now. Will definitely add.

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I just never heard of it until now. Will definitely add.

Thats cus its my idea lols
Last format hated always going for gaia or one turn exterio so after 20 mins going through DN I experimented with robe and it worked
However Im presuming other people have also thought of the idea
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So, here's an updated build. I decided to throw in a couple copies of The Shallow Grave so I can easily re-use Summoner of Illusions. My extra deck still needs filling out though.

Edited by The Witty Phantom, 05 October 2012 - 10:47 PM.


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some of my favorite synchros: thought ruler archfiend, mist wurm, ally of justice decisive armor

also scrap dragon works well with treeborn frog

   
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some of my favorite synchros: thought ruler archfiend, mist wurm, ally of justice decisive armor

also scrap dragon works well with treeborn frog


Noted and a bump before bed.

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I think you should take out 1 Black Salvo, 1 Treeborn, and 1 MST...eh Army Garnel is more useful...I'd say use more Deckochi or something to make up for a potential loss of them...maybe...up to you...also with the lost MST to use another robe in place...

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my suggestions for that empty space in extra
+1 gachi gachi
+1 photon butterfly
+1 maestroke
+1 black rose dragon

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Oh oh, someone actually built Illusion Infinity that isn't me?

*Likes*

I dislike the Shallow Grave, like all other cards that helps my opponent. If you intend on recycling Summoner of Illusion, wouldn't Birdman do the job better? Plus it have higher utility, like recycling Caius or Black Salvo. Or use Zephyrous. Card is amazing.

Like Leish said, take out a Wisel Ein for a Granel Ein. You only need 1 Army and 1 target to make 3 Chaos Infinity and 3 Black Salvo live respectively, but having at least 2 targets is a good safeguard. I'm really iffy on that Krebons. Seems unnecessary.

Personal fix;

-1 Deko
-1 Krebons
-1 Wisel EIn

+2 Birdman
+1 Granel Ein
+2 Trag/2 BFader/1 Gorz, 1 Dupe Frog

-2 TSG

-1 Cyber End
-2 Rank 6s
-1 Lightning Warrior

+2 Black Rose
+1 Burei
+3 Rank 3s of choice (possibly Acid Golem/17, Zenmaines, Leviair)
+1/2 Gear Gigant X
+1/2 GGG
+1 Armory Arm
+1 Catastor/Other Level 5s
+1 Maestroke/Pearl

ofc, my Extra Deck monster suggestion is over the limit, so you can choose which one suits you. But I recommend Burei over Lightning Warrior due to Extra ATK, easy acces and the ability to trigger your Summoner of Illusions. You can also use Photon Papilloperative for similar effect.

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Oh oh, someone actually built Illusion Infinity that isn't me?

*Likes*


Thanks!

Well, here's an update.

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I decided that I would strike a happy medium between Roxzen's and Leishoshwanio's suggestions.

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3 rank 6 monsters seem like a bit much when your main way of getting them out would be with probably with only Caius. I'd say lose the Sword Breaker for like...well either something else someone mentioned...or to have something incredibly situational, on the off chance you encounter said situation; Black-Wing Dragon (Krebon + Caius or Treeborn + Black Salvo) being probably the best example.

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3 rank 6 monsters seem like a bit much when your main way of getting them out would be with probably with only Caius. I'd say lose the Sword Breaker for like...well either something else someone mentioned...or to have something incredibly situational, on the off chance you encounter said situation; Black-Wing Dragon (Krebon + Caius or Treeborn + Black Salvo) being probably the best example.


Alright, I'll ditch Sword Breaker.

Bump.

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No one else has any ideas?

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No one else has any ideas?

why in the 7 hells do you have triple treeborn when you only need 1 (2 at max if ur scared) since swap frog ditches it?
Also add tgu for more darks and more importantly an easy way to get rank 3 xyzs or sangan out
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why in the 7 hells do you have triple treeborn when you only need 1 (2 at max if ur scared) since swap frog ditches it?
Also add tgu for more darks and more importantly an easy way to get rank 3 xyzs or sangan out


Tribute fodder, mostly. But, yeah, I guess three is a little excessive. I'm still a little wet behind the ears when it comes to Frog engines. So this is new to me, really.

And I just completely forgot about Tour Guide from the Underworld.

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Yet another update!

Edited by The Witty Phantom, 06 October 2012 - 07:50 PM.


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-2 Dekoichi
-1 Granel
-1 Salvo/Krebons

+2 Birdman
+2 Tragoedia

I still don't like Krebons. Take out Exa-Beetle for either Acid Golem, Leviathan Dragon, Leviair, or Gear Gigant X. Gear Gigant X is possible with Chaos Infinity, and it searches your Salvo (and Birdman if you decided to run it)

Not liking Torrential Tribute really.

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