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[AlgerHiss]

Hi, quick ruling question, if I use Number 16: Shock Master's effect, and choose monster, can my opponent use Wind-Up Zenmaine's effect to keep it from being destroyed if I attack that turn? I tried to find a ruling on it, but all I could find was that shock master did not negate continuous effects. My opponent said that Zenmaine's first effect still worked, but I couldn't find anything to verify it. Thank you!

[Radiant Nexus]

You cannot negate it because continuous effects don't activate, they are always active once the card is on the field.

[Pox_Equestria]

The first effect (detach a material instead of destroying it) is continuous and does not activate, so shock master does not stop it

The second effect (when it detaches a material, destroy a card) is a trigger effect and is negated by shock master

[kangtuji]

Perhaps bests ideas is Light-Imprisioning Mirror / Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror versus Cont. Eff (like jinzo / spirit reaper)

But then again, who knews if there is BKSS rulings :x

[skielinfiniti]

Shock Master specifically says the effect cannot "activate", and an effect that activates starts a chain. Continuous Effects such as Zenmaines' detach do not activate, but the End Phase effect does and will be prevented by Master.

[! ! ! ! Utopia Ray!]

it only negates the destoy effect which is a trigger

[Key]

It has already been state that Number 16: Shock Master does not negate but rather prevents activation.

[Hinks121487]

Since we're on the topic of Shock Master... I get him out and declare "Monster" I attack his lightsworn, and he drops Honest. Pretty sure thats activating it's effect, but wasn't sure since it's from the hand.

[ohnuts]

Since we're on the topic of Shock Master... I get him out and declare "Monster" I attack his lightsworn, and he drops Honest. Pretty sure thats activating it's effect, but wasn't sure since it's from the hand.

Shock Master will prevent Honest's effect to be activated.

[Hinks121487]

DN judge gave the ruling to the other guy saying, "Shock Master negates spell/traps/monsters from being activated. Monsters are activated when they are summoned." >.< Grrrrrr

[Pox_Equestria]

Also note that since honest can't be activated, he has to return the honest to his hand

[Hinks121487]

*Writes note* Note taken.