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noobdaddy

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I've come across several ppl using skill drain while i have a battle fader in my hand. once he's on the field, if he's removed from the field while skill drain is on the field, i understand he goes to the grave. However it says on the card that "When an opponent's monster declares a direct attack: You can Special Summon this card from your hand, then end the Battle Phase" the special summon occurs from my hand but do i get to stop the battle phase? if does say "Special Summon this card from your hand, "THEN" end the Battle Phase" because it says "then" i dont have much argument to put up because it does seem to me like an eff that activates on the field. Anyways, do both these things happen simultaneously from the hand or do i only get to special summon him?

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It ends the BP
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According to the Wiki ....

The effect of "Battle Fader" which Special Summons it and the effect which ends the Battle Phase are resolved as the same effect. The effect activates in the hand, so the effects of "Skill Drain" and "Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror" will not negate the effect even though "Battle Fader" is Special Summoned, so the effect which ends the Battle Phase will still be applied.
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Skill Drain does not stop Battle Fader's effect, which does not seem to make sense, but is an official ruling. This means you still end the battle phase, no matter what.
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Skill Drain does not stop Battle Fader's effect, which does not seem to make sense, but is an official ruling. This means you still end the battle phase, no matter what.

It definitely makes sence
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It makes sense. Fader activates in hand, like Effect Veiler etc etc.

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jenzopmk

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No, not really. Because even if the effect starts in the hand, It's steal him that's doing it. u c ?

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kangtuji

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And it still goes to banish zone

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Out of curiosity, is Number 16: Shock Master able to use its effect to prevent Battle Fader or Swift Scarecrow's effect?

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Assuming they activate, then yeah that should work.
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raidou

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Skill Drain does not stop Battle Fader's effect, which does not seem to make sense, but is an official ruling. This means you still end the battle phase, no matter what.


makes sense becuase when it hits the field the effect already resolved

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Skill Drain negates what activates on field and is on field during resolution.


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noobdaddy

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Wow, quick responds, thanx all, i will now go make peace by ending battles =D

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Fader activates in the hand, thus it ends the battle phase

and it's still removed from play when removed from the field
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According to the Wiki ....

The effect of "Battle Fader" which Special Summons it and the effect which ends the Battle Phase are resolved as the same effect. The effect activates in the hand, so the effects of "Skill Drain" and "Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror" will not negate the effect even though "Battle Fader" is Special Summoned, so the effect which ends the Battle Phase will still be applied.


That is correct. Well stated.

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If you activate Sangan's effect, then chain Call of the Haunted while Skill Drain is active, it won't be negated.
Because Skill Drain negates cards that activates on the field and are face-up when it resolves as Bunny stated; Battle Fader never activated on the field, it's unaffected.

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